i see the green site also. i am on multiple DS1s.
I see green... Cable Broadband
I see green too. AOL dialup customer here.
Seems like everyone can see it but me and the other guys involved. Makes me mad...even the guys in the office at Roadrunner are pulling it up. This is the craziest thing Ive ever seen. It's got to be something goofy. Anyone ever dealt with something like this before? Hawg
I've had similar problems before.... The following two things fixed the problems: (sometimes the first but definantly the second) 1. Flushing my DNS - To do so open DOS Prompt and type: ipconfig /flushdns 2. Waiting! In my experience, with people who use RoadRunner, Unfortunantly they do not flush DNS that often, you can call tech support and ask them to do so, but there is no guarantee.. If it hasn't changed within the next 2-3 days, I definantly suggest calling and yelling... because thats when it gets stupid! ... DNS Prop.. has taken sites anywhere from 24 hours - 10 days... Depending on what server you are viewing with..
yes, good call by fpworld. try the ipconfig /flushdns first. then if you still have the trouble you will need to check your hosts file and see if there is a hard coded ip address in there for the domain.
The upside to all of this?? (us seeing the correct one, you not...) at least you know your customers are likely seeing the right one !! ;-)
Ok...I called the people hosting my old site. I had them completely delete everything from the old site and remove it from their servers. Now when I go to my site ( or attempt to) Im redirected to the old hosting companies home page. Although all the people at the hosting company can pull up the new site. This tells me there has got to be something stored on my home pc that is forcing me to the old server and when its not finding the site its bringing me to their default page.( Home page) What can i do or delete or whatever to force my computer to find the new DNS info? Ive deleted all my cookies, internet files, history, ive done the ipconfig /flush dns , Ive tried control R, Ive tried shift refresh..basically all the little tips and tricks people have told me about. Ive unplugged my cable modem and rebooted ..everything. There has got to be something stored via ip or cache somewhere on my computer that i can delete and let it find the new one. Im totally positive the DNS propagation is completed. To bad Im not rich or i'd offer some sort of reward for the genius who figures it out. hehe. Hawg
here's what you do: go to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC on your hard drive. open up the file HOSTS make sure there is no entry for your domain. if there is remove it.
After you do what Tom suggests (which mind you is a good idea) ... If it doesn't work Try to PING your site... Open up DOS Prompt ... Type: ping domainname.com and see what it comes back with.... Oooo.. Gotta love a good mystery... Let us know soon!!!!!!!!!
at least it is localized to 2 things: 1) a dns problem 2) a dns problem on fyrehawgs machine
No thing worked....was nothing in my host files.....i pinged it and got this back... Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp. C:\>ping www.book-a-hunt.com Pinging www.book-a-hunt.com [207.8.198.27] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 207.8.198.27: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=241 Request timed out. Reply from 207.8.198.27: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=241 Reply from 207.8.198.27: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=241 Ping statistics for 207.8.198.27: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 47ms, Average = 35ms C:\> Not sure what that ping info means. Anyhow....im fixing to go jump off a bridge.....that's right after I pull my hair out. Hawg
Hmmmmm....I see 66.216.122.92 as the resolved address, although I am not able to ping. I think it has something to do with our firewall at work. You can also try tracert www.book-a-hunt.com to see the path of the ping.
the ip should be: 66.216.122.92 okay, that eliminates all but one thing. it is your ISP. did they, perhaps, also host the site? if they did they have stale entries set up that are resolving to the old address.
Here's tracert to both www.book-a-hunt.com and www.websitewizard.com whom is what im getting if I type in book-a-hunt.com...both exactly the same. Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp. C:\>tracert www.websitewizard.com Tracing route to [b:acc128b2a7]www.websitewizard.com [/b:acc128b2a7][207.8.198.27] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 16 ms <10 ms 16 ms 10.100.64.1 2 <10 ms 16 ms <10 ms srp000-bumttxhe-rtr1.gt.rr.com [66.25.224.1] 3 <10 ms 16 ms 15 ms srp4-0.hstntxtid-rtr3.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.115 ] 4 <10 ms 16 ms 15 ms son0-0-3.hstqtxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.16 1] 5 16 ms <10 ms 16 ms pop1-hou-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.133.145] 6 <10 ms 15 ms 16 ms bb1-hou-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.146.96] 7 31 ms 16 ms 31 ms bb1-atm-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.184] 8 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms bb1-cha-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.183] 9 31 ms 31 ms 47 ms bb2-cha-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.135] 10 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms bb2-ash-P13-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.50] 11 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms pop3-ash-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.148.211] 12 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms Fastnet.atdn.net [66.185.140.246] 13 47 ms 78 ms 47 ms 207.106.96.34 14 47 ms 47 ms 62 ms sebastion.netaxs.net [207.106.0.229] 15 46 ms 63 ms 47 ms web.implix.com [207.8.198.27] Trace complete. C:\>tracert www.book-a-hunt.com Tracing route to [b:acc128b2a7]www.book-a-hunt.com [/b:acc128b2a7][207.8.198.27] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 16 ms <10 ms 15 ms 10.100.64.1 2 <10 ms 16 ms <10 ms srp000-bumttxhe-rtr1.gt.rr.com [66.25.224.1] 3 <10 ms 15 ms 16 ms srp4-0.hstntxtid-rtr3.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.115 ] 4 <10 ms 15 ms <10 ms son0-0-3.hstqtxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.16 1] 5 <10 ms 16 ms <10 ms pop1-hou-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.133.145] 6 16 ms <10 ms 16 ms bb1-hou-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.146.96] 7 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms bb1-atm-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.184] 8 32 ms 31 ms 47 ms bb1-cha-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.183] 9 31 ms 47 ms 31 ms bb2-cha-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.135] 10 47 ms 46 ms 47 ms bb2-ash-P13-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.50] 11 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms pop3-ash-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.148.211] 12 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms Fastnet.atdn.net [66.185.140.246] 13 47 ms 47 ms 62 ms 207.106.96.34 14 46 ms 63 ms 47 ms sebastion.netaxs.net [207.106.0.229] 15 47 ms 47 ms 62 ms web.implix.com [207.8.198.27] Trace complete. C:\> Looks like I ran tracert on the exact same site to me. Hawg
that traceroute is totally wrong! you can't run a traceroute to book-a-hunt.com it is on multiple ips and is behind a firewall check with your ISP. their DNS is wrong
Ok..finally getting somewheres......what exactly do I cmy ISP and say? To answer the question...no they didnt host both sites....actually neither. You guys rock. Hawg
I disagree with you Tom, You can do a tracerte on the site, just not the IP... We too did a tracerte Is your current host websiteforge.com? which is where it ended up. Ok... First off... Do you have any internet accelerator software on your computer? What browser and version are you using? What OS are you using? Did you delete your temp directory as well? When you deleted your Internet files and cookies, did you do it via the browser or did you physically open windows explorer and manually delete them? If you did it via the browser you could still have some floating around... ......... Those are questions my tech guy wanted to know... He also suggested downloading another browser such as Mozilla.org and see if its your browser.... http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firebird/releases/0.6.1/MozillaFirebird-0.6.1-win32.zip This will eliminate the possibility that it is your computer/browser....
traceroute: Warning: book-a-hunt.com has multiple addresses; using 66.216.122.91 traceroute to book-a-hunt.com (66.216.122.91), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 65.123.108.129 (65.123.108.129) 1.140 ms 1.198 ms 0.990 ms 2 192.168.129.1 (192.168.129.1) 3.897 ms 3.832 ms 3.789 ms 3 chi-edge-20.inet.qwest.net (63.149.1.149) 12.223 ms 12.119 ms 12.093 ms 4 chi-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.20.181) 12.865 ms 19.443 ms 12.261 ms 5 cer-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.205.34) 13.423 ms 13.353 ms 13.358 ms 6 cer-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.139.2) 13.477 ms 13.448 ms 13.406 ms 7 kcm-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.170) 26.202 ms 26.114 ms 26.110 ms 8 kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.129) 26.199 ms 26.169 ms 26.150 ms 9 dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.141) 37.098 ms 37.057 ms 37.180 ms 10 dal-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.25.129) 37.108 ms 37.038 ms 37.054 ms 11 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.126) 40.659 ms 40.670 ms 40.627 ms 12 iah-edge-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.46) 40.584 ms 40.531 ms 40.510 ms 13 63.237.96.154 (63.237.96.154) 46.118 ms 46.094 ms 46.124 ms 14 vl130.core1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.33) 221.398 ms 102.721 ms 46.234 ms 15 vl905.aggr5.sat2.rackspace.com (64.39.2.82) 46.407 ms 46.489 ms 46.494 ms 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * *
they changed something from earlier today. tell your ISP that they have the wrong IP address in their cache for book-a-hunt.com you can also add the IP address to your HOSTS file manually, although you shouldn't have to. no isp should have that old of an ip address though.
Tracing route to book-a-hunt.com [66.216.122.93] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 31 ms 14 ms 16 ms 65.121.220.33 2 13 ms 16 ms 10 ms 65.121.220.1 3 64 ms 73 ms 85 ms dca-edge-06.inet.qwest.net [65.118.218.245] 4 30 ms 35 ms 39 ms dca-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.9.29] 5 59 ms 115 ms 49 ms atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.153] 6 93 ms 90 ms 67 ms atl-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.149] 7 66 ms 64 ms 77 ms iah-core-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.145] 8 67 ms 67 ms 73 ms iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.31.41] 9 84 ms 68 ms 86 ms iah-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.31.46] 10 114 ms 81 ms 72 ms 63.237.96.154 11 98 ms 145 ms 70 ms vl130.core1.sat.rackspace.com [64.39.2.33] 12 158 ms 141 ms 95 ms vl905.aggr5.sat2.rackspace.com [64.39.2.82] 13 89 ms 134 ms 86 ms WF4.websiteforge.com [66.216.122.93] Trace complete.
i'm not sure of the rationale behind the "multiple ips" it has, but that shouldn't make a big difference.
That site has 3 IPs according to nslookup... 91-93... I agree it should not make a difference.... The guys here think it has something to do with hawg's computer itself (the connection he has) ..
the easiest resolution is for him to just hard code it into his hosts file. i doubt they will change the IP address anytime in the near future. i'ms surprised by the 3 ip addresses. i doubt they're actually mirroring the site and i also doubt book-a-hunt.com needs round robin DNS for load balancing (especially not at this stage of its development). if he hard codes it, the problem is resolved, although its unlikely we ever find out what actually happened.
Ok..i manually went in and deleted all cache's , temp files, etc etc etc......No change. I downloaded and tried to use mozilla.....nothing. Someone tell me what to do to maually fix this...i won't do it untill Im satisfied roadrunner employees are complete idiots. It's been this long im dying to figure out what the deal is. Im calling them now. im already up to their tier 3 guys and they are stumped. Hawg
No accelerator.....using xp pro......using i.e. 6.0 as browser.
How do i hard code this to my host files..im so tired of fooling with it and Ive got so much work to do on the content I just can't put it off and worry about this anymore. I feel fairly confident that most are able to see the new site. Some one will have to spell it out for me as far as manually adding it to my host files..im clueless. Thanks guys. Hawg
in notepad, open: c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts type the following line: 66.216.122.92 www.book-a-hunt.com save the file. reboot.
Luthor definantly has it... We here are completely out of ideas except what he just said.. Sorry.. Wish we knew something more
Thanks..im fixin to do that...I just wanted to add...about it being something on my computer.....it is happening to 3 off us...1 here in the same town...1 about an hour away in houston..the only thing in common is that all 3 off us have dealt with keeping up with the old site and we were all on it quite a bit...all 3 having the same problem. I think its something from the old hosting company on our computers? Who knows....let me try this manually and see if it works. Hawg
most likely the three people in the same time are pulling off the same DNS server. type in nslookup book-a-hunt.com from each of the machines. see if the same DNS address is listed for all three. if it is, call Road Runner and do their job for them. tell them the DNS server at x.x.x.x has a stale record, possibly due to an overly long TTL.
Ok...im ticked..it wont even let me change my host file...im doing what you ya'll said...i add 66.216.122.92 www.book-a-hunt.com save and then it says: cannot save c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file I can save it as a text doc but it doesnt change anything. Remind me next bridge i cross to jump off. Hawg
I just deleted my hole etc folder..im to that point..nothing hehe
Calm down :) Step away from the bridge... There are too many IQ points in this forum that deals with this field daily to not figure this out... give me and everyone else here till tommorrow.. we'll figure SOMETHING out.... :D
forget jumping. make sure you're logged in as administrator.
BTW Totally missed Tom's reply .. Good call Tom... If you are all hitting that same one, it would explain it
Logged in as administrator.
what do you mean you can save it as a text doc? are you using Notepad?
yes using notepad...I open up my host file...add 66.216.122.92..save..then it comes up and says cannot create c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\host file......then it pops up a box to save it as a .txt file and it will save it like that but it just adds a text file into the etc folder instead of changing the host file itself.
if the changes are in effect in the .txt file, just copy it to the hosts file. from the command prompt (in the correct directory) type: copy hosts.txt hosts it will prompt you to overwrite. say yes.
says can't find file
first change directories: cd c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
AND THE TRUMPETS BLAST!!!! VICTORY (kinda) I had in my haste deleted my host file..thats why it couldnt find the file...created a new one added the ip and bingo..ive got the new site. You guys are the best bunch of guys there are. I ended up telling roadrunner i was on this message board and i didnt need no stinkin help from their girls wanting me to reboot. hehehe thanks to all who helped me. Hawg
Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! *does happy dance for ya!* :) I'm so glad you are able to see it... Good Job Tom! *clapshands*
that's good news!
Cool. I have another question about this. Is the DNS server that you are pointing to at RoadRunner or do you have your own? I have to ask because sometimes there are small companies that use RR for their internet access and have their own internal DNS, routers, etc... Just making sure. If it is RR's DNS server, then they need to flush promptly because this could be a problem for others and they don't realize it. The only other thing I can think of right now is the setting in the browser that checks for updated pages.....nevermind, that isn't it because another browser was used. I will continue to noodle this one through to see if I can think of anything, but at least you are up and running.
We found the problem....BOTH Hosting companies were still pointing their DNS to each website. We had one domain trying to point to 2 different sites. we finally found this and the old hostying company removed us from their DNS and it fixed the problem for everyone.
Yipee... the mystery has been solved *claps* ... Hey at least its all better now! :)