Frames & 'always viewable' content when scrolled

Hi, having decided on the layout for one of the pages which will be part of my company site, I need you to tell me if this is the most effective and cross-browser safe way of doing what I need. Here is what I need. Some kind people on this site showed me how to display the many small thumbs which will make up a 'grid' of small pictures showing my products. I now need to make a permanent thin section of the lower part of the browser window in which I can display product information when the user clicks on a picture in the main display Also, above this thin section, I need another part where I can display a row of text links, similar to what ebay have at the bottom of their home page. The trick is, I need both to remain on the page when the main 'piture' display is scrolled Am I safe with this kind of approach, I don't want to risk losing sales if people with early browsers can't operate the site properly (no doubt I could re-direct them to an alternative way of viewing the pages in question if needed) This is the way I was planning on laying out the pages index.html p2framesetonly.html p3mainphotodisplay.html p3lowesttextbar.html p4linkbar.html -----I am new to this, does it make sense ??---- :?

Frames arnt that Search engine friendly have you considered scrolling divs.

Oh my god ! - it's another concept that Ive never heard of, can you give me an example of code or point me to a site that uses this method then I can see what it looks like ? I need to partition the bottom of my screen off, so it's showing all the time, and it needs to display different info depending of what is clicked in the main window, do you think that this can be done using the <div> ? Around where I live a "div" is what we call someone that can't do things and is always getting stuff wrong, right now, I feel like a <div> :? Cheers -Paul

He's referring to Cascading Style Sheets, which are better to use than frames. Since you're learning HTML, you may as well go ahead and learn XHTML, because it's becoming the new standard. Here's [url=http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.5.4]information on DIVs[/url] XHTML will display on PDAs, etc, so its more accessible than HTML.

Each time I start to think that I've learned enough of the basic techniques to get my company site up and running, someone comes up with a better way of doing what I already thought I could do. The main thing is, I am enjoying it, even if I havent create anythng worth looking at yet ! :lol: Paul

you can create the same effect as frames using xhtml or css ? - i need a scrollable main window and an always in view bar at the bottom of the screen which will show text based on what the user clicks in the main view, is this possible with the other tehniques ?

You have to create a new page with a new menu on the bottom for each content or you can have the content automatically scroll down to the desired section when you click on a link using the a name tag. its up to you. the right country jurisdiction DIV in incorporateacompany.com is a scrolling div and the scroll down using the a name tag is viewable in the FAQ section.

Ok, I see the seperate scrolling part on :- http://www.incorporateacompany.com/ As far as I can figure, it's placed where is is using tables.....but it does not 'stick' to a point on the screen. I need to apply a full borwser width bar along the bottom of my page which is always there, regardless of where you scroll the main part of the page to. The best bet is, I'll work onuploading a test version of what I'm trying to describe, I'll let you know the url then Thanks - Paul

Ok, it's on and working, please take a look http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/blackpoolsingles/index.html Thanks Apart from some tinkering, I now have exactly what I want, please read the section (after click on pic) about, can I put put the details which are important to search engines on a seperate page (duplicate in a list) in order that the search engines can pick up that content -Or are you penalised by search engines and pushed down the list just becasue you use frames anyway ? Cheers - Paul

This should work for you. [code:1:3984ff7a16]<html><head><base href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/blackpoolsingles/"></head><body> <table width="100%" height="100%" border="0"><tr height="120"><td> Fixed content or menu on the top </td></tr><tr><td> <div style="width:100%; height:100%; background-color:#ffffff; overflow:auto;"> <ul><center> <li><img src="suite1thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br><a href="anexampledescribe.html" target="describeproduct">Click this one !</a></li> <li><img src="suite2thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="suite3thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="suite4thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="suite5thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="suite6thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="suite7thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="homepage1thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="homepage3thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="homepage4thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> <li><img src="homepage2thumb.jpg" alt=""/><br>not linked</li> </ul></center></div> </td></tr> <tr height="120"><td> Some more fixed content at the bottom </td></tr></table> </body></html>[/code:1:3984ff7a16]

It took me about 5 minutes, (not even)Im just that good, Modified new code available here. http://www.web-mastery.net/postp19741.html#19741

[quote:d4034178cd="darksat"]It took me about 5 minutes, (not even)Im just that good, [/quote:d4034178cd] Such modesty :D

paul, that page looks pretty good man! keep up the good work. spiders have a hard time crawling frames right, so use css instead. you are guaranteed to rank higher in the search engines and it's good practice.

[quote:2258149c22="raven"] Such modesty :D[/quote:2258149c22] What, I havnt even been bragging about the 10 hour sex marathons, my hobby as a rocket scientist, or my enormous...No wait, scratch the last one, I have.

LOL :lol: