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Hello Ivan :welcome Personally, I don't think multi-level marketing is a very good way to make money. There is too many people doing the same useless thing and even paying to do it. Its an excellent choice for a company but not for the marketer him/herself. Andrey

Hi :) Well, can't say no to your oppinion bcause of that, it's an oppinion :). Only I can say is my experience. I have been working oon the net for over 5 years actually, I fact I own an enterprise that touches many different themes and services for websites includin but not limited to, seo, design, marketing, etc. We offer many services but our big and main service is Marketing for website, for our websites and for othewr websites (big and small). To find the best product that fits a site, to sell a product that is unsellable (:)), etc. We habe done very good with standar publicity and without MLM. You are right there are many ways of making money and you don't need an MLM company for this. (After telling my esperecience as a net marketeer) I can say that with MLM programs I have done more money than even with the enterprise I run. I started with MLM over a year and a half ago and the enterprise 5 years ago... MLM depends of how you market the product, some people are skilled to do this and some other aren't. Some MLM programs can allow you to make for example 20,000$ in 15 days (I have seen that with my eyes) or even some more. I have reached these amounts with MLM and I didn't it that fast with my original business. Now for me the papers have changed, now MLM is my first biz (I'm on some different programs) and the other one has moved a bit to the backstage (I keep it anyways). Of course it's good for the enterprise, but I can say that it's good for the user too :). And for the ones that have never tried an MLM compamy. I suggest you to try one one day. Maybe you will like it, maybe not, maybe it's a good opportunity for you maybe not. But you will see what's this and you will be able to decide if you like the system or not. In fact you can make really good money with it, if you work of course. So I suggest you to try an MLM company (I don't mean to come inside one I am with, check it out and decide for yourself if you want :)). This is my experience with Web Marketing and with MLM. :) Thanks for anwering anyways ;) Ivan

Sure thing, Ivan. Please understand, I am not trying to put you or your business down. I am sure it worked for many people and will work for many more. I am in marketing, too. Have been working online for 4 years. I'm only 20 but I have seen and tried many things. You know better then I do that most companies that sell services and provide multi-level marketing get more money from payments marketers have to pay to join the program then from actual sales. Some programs like that make you pay $250 just to join and about $50 each month. They give you only 5-10 bucks for each sale of the product that no one wants to buy. At the end people spend 10 hours to make $50. Once again I am not saying that all multi-level marketing programs are like that but I share wide spread opinion about all of them. I guess you can accuse me of generalizing :) Andrey

Of course I'm not accusing you of generalizing. :) No problem. I just commented the fact I did good with MLM nothing more. I know what most of MLM companies do. At the case I'm commentig avobe you only pay the Calls, and then if you want you can resell the product, but you pay a service, not "the rights to resell" as most other companies. Anyways, I'm not trying just to sell the product here. I'm open to have a discussion about MLM and other sort of programs :) I like to discuss ;). What do you do on Marketing? Wich sort of websites do you have? Ivan

I work mostly with local businesses. Help them build their site, optimize it and market their products. I help them with flier design, website development, pay-per-click search engines, search engine submission and optimization (although I'm not too good at that, haven't put any site on the first page yet :lol: ), newspaper and magazine ads, etc. I ran many things including hosting company, pay-per-lead services and now I just created my own design firm. Haven't quite a few local clients so I am not really freelancing or anything like that but if I get some free time...who knows :) What's the name of your enterprise? Andrey

The name is "Unlimited Ideas Inc" But we mostly work on the spanish market :) Ivan

Unlimited Ideas, ha. I like that :D So where are you from?

Well, I'm from Spain. You ? I'm working either on the spanish market and on the english one (lately I have been doing slow on the english one). Respecto of SEO, I have on my enterprise one of the best SEOs of the net ;) If you want, we can chat about it, first positions guaranteed ;) I'm trying to do what you are doing in my region, but little commerces seem that don't belive in the net yet... I suppose It a matter of time. Maybe in a year the thing will be different (I hope, I waiting for the moment to engage hehe). Ivan

Well, I'm from New York. Here everybody believes in the power of the net :lol: I guess in that sense US is different from the rest of the world, although there are major net businesses all over the world. I really don't know how Spain is doing, but America is recovering from "Great Internet Depression" if you will. Economy is up and online sales of all types are up with it. So naturally the second wave of internet businesses is coming and I am planning to ride it :D Why are you guys in Spain so quite. I don't remember hearing anything about Spain for couple of years now. We all hear about France, Germany, Russia and the Middle East of course but you guys...where is your Spanish Armada :?: :!: :wink:

the internet will be the next big thing again soon. the costs that companies can save by being virtual are enormous. many internet companies are very good investments.

Of course the future of online is bright. It was bright 10 years ago too. It just wasn't as bright as a lot of idiot investors thought :)