Yes Edwin, they are the ones promoting their forum with emails and articles. Problem is that Google advertises on their website and they censor Google subjects so Baby Google does not pull their ads off of the forum. They are not a good forum for free flow of information or free speech, any forum that censors has no integrity for users to gain knowledge. How can the users of the forum gain insight, if only one side is allowed to present facts on the subject matter, even worse appointing a Google Zealot to be moderator like they have makes the WPW forum a joke. You can see the censorship of my comments many times in the following link. http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=17082 I have sent the administrator a letter saying that I will contact Overture a division of Yahoo that also advertises on their forum unless he gives me a good answer as to why he has such a bias moderator like CBP who edits out any comments that he thinks are negative to Google or his own bias opinions toward Google.
who runs their forum? did you personally attack any of the members?
Edwin you know that I stick to issues, not personally attacking people. The moderator used to be a member I used to debate issues with, now that he is a moderator he censors my comments to suit his needs as a Google Spy. The issue he hides from is the same one that I have brought forward from the beginning, he will not answer this question, so I asked him to bring a Google representative to the forum to answer this basic question. Do the search links in http://www.webcenter.squarespace.com redirect web traffic to a ADSENSE publishers thousands of subdomains? He keeps from answering this question and hides it from open discussion by deleting entire threads and altering or editing my comments as you see in the first link I posted in this thread. It is this simple, I do not attack people unless they attack me first, you seen that with Darrin Ward the censor Google spy from SEOCHAT. The problem I see on a lot of forums is bias within administration and from moderators who will not let a open discussion take place within the forum. What kind of forum is that? Not a very professional one but a bad one. That is why I say that the Big Kahunna is the winner in all this because he does not censor subjects and lets free speech happen here. That is why this forum will be a great success, some of the other forums like WPW and SearchGuild and WebWorkshop and SEOchat have no editorial integrity whatsoever. Forums that delete entire threads, remove members comments, well they have no editorial integrity at all. Forums that censor free speech are not worth the members time since they are blocking viewpoints that members need to know to make judgements on the issues facing us all.
well the way he edits the thread makes it lose context. he has "personal insults removed" or something like that. a reader has no way of knowing what the actual content was before he removed it. in cases like that i generally side with the censored over the censorer because i wasn't allowed to make my own decision.
They're also guilty of having a lame website and a crappy newsletter.
[quote:1d9c45b10d="BigRob"]They're also guilty of having a lame website and a crappy newsletter.[/quote:1d9c45b10d] oh come on! they scrape all the best forums for quotes and then garret french writes an opinion piece. and you know what else? they know the value of their newsletter. you get subscribed when you get a listing in jayde and if you unsubscribe the listing self destructs. little stricter unsubscribe than most lists.
Garrett would not even answer my email on having a so called Google expert as a forum Google Spy. It is alright for Garrett to write about Google brain implanting the population. But for me to bring up Google redirecting traffic from their so called PURE search results, that is a no no. What a bunch of phony Blind Google propaganda artists they are....
Maybe they have a lot of Google stock for the IPO.
Most of these moderators really are not experts on Google, they simply sit around and edit out whatever THEY deem bad for Google since they are mostly afraid of Google Blacklisting them. Again if anyone if worried about this, look at the next link and you will see that Google is just one of many search engines. They will become LESS important as time goes on. If you do not believe me look at all of the engines available to you by going to http://www.searchenginesinternational.com
they are still real big though!
CNN just dropped them yesterday for Yahoo. Local Newspapers hate them since Google is moving in to local search and they do believe that Google will try to take their classified advertising business from them by extending ADSENSE and ADWORDS into those local markets. So CNN dropped them for getting into the news business, now every newspaper in the country hates them for getting into the local marketplace. Bill Gates hates them since Google Zealots are preaching the Google OS, not to mention Yahoo who wants to make Google the next Netscape. Their future as the leader of search is over since they are moving away from that core business into G-spymail, Blogging, Okrut (freindster clone), Google News and every other hairbrained idea other than search they can think up.
Yeah. Orkut and G-Mail show a real lack of vision for the company. Once the real AdSense numbers start declining, the Google stock will plummet in value. AdSense is intro-ing "BANNERS" now. LOL. What a revolution in online advertising.
I noticed that you didn't state the actual words that were censored, anthonycea. As as non-biased reader of this thread, it could sound a bit like sour grapes, and the words really did need cutting out. I'm not suggesting that that's what it is - just that it's how it may be seen. [quote:5b7b49430d="anthonycea"]....some of the other forums like WPW and SearchGuild and WebWorkshop and SEOchat have no editorial integrity whatsoever[/quote:5b7b49430d] How did WebWorkshop get in that list? It's an untrue statement, but I'm flattered :D
Now I understand how WebWorkshop got into the list. A read of the following threads will shed some light:- http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?t=1190&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 http://www.v7n.com/forums/ftopic6370.html I don't remember exactly, but it seems that I deleted one of his posts, which, judging by the posts that refer to it, must have merited being deleted. If that means that the forum has "no editorial integrity", it's cool :wink:
Phil, "The Page Rank Preacher" comes here to spread his Google Propaganda, whats wrong Phil, business no good at your censorship forum so you come here to try to Highjack BK's traffic back to your censorship fourm. NO ONE IS INTERESTED PHIL, GO BACK AND CRAWL BACK UNDER THE ROCK YOU CAME OUT FROM UNDER! Phil, can you explain the SERP's for us linked from www.webcenter.squarespace.com Why don't you do that for us?
I'm INTERESTED PHIL, :D anthonycea you do seem to like to attack people. A search for your name in Google and a little research goes a long way. I can see why you do not like Google they show the world what your doing. :lol:
O wow, the worst serial moderator in the World Janeth is here folks, this lady is the most unknowledgeable person ever assigned to be a moderator ever. Phil seems to have a habit of appointing moderators that are just YES MEN/WOMEN to all of his flawed teachings. That is great Phil, but it just does not work in the real world, just as your teachings do not. You two are like a mold that grows on forums, a black mold, well, I hate to ruin your forum propaganda efforts, but you two are just a couple Yellow flies that want to bite forum members here and all other members should be aware of PHIL C and JANETH. Don't catch the YELLOW fever (page rank propaganda that Phil likes to preach) cus it will make you sick and delusional. Do not fall for their lies, that is really all they have to offer, that and flawed theories.
You are so funny anthonycea lets tell the truth either your about 13 or your momma droped you on your head when you where a baby, which is it?
[quote:d25d1858d4]O wow, the worst serial moderator in the World Janeth is here folks, this lady is the most unknowledgeable person ever assigned to be a moderator ever. [/quote:d25d1858d4] I'm also smart enough to see you for what you are......A JOKE :lol: :lol: :lol:
There ain't nothing funny about a couple of censors and propaganda agents for Google coming here to fabricate more and more lies Janeth. I know you and Phil can not help yourselves, after all pathalogical liers know no other way. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
anthonycea I have never censored or changed any of your post. Just laughed at them.
Well Phil C is a certified censor and you are his moderator, why are you both here? Can you explain why you come to infect WM forums, is not the censorship forum enough for you and Phil who came here to suck the blood out of this forum? Phil has already made a joke out of his forum, well he will not do that here, he has already left links to his joke forum a few posts up, members never waste time at Phil's BRAINWASHING PAGE RANK SCAM FORUM.
Hi anthonycea I'm sorry we upset you I did not know this was your forum are you saying we are not welcome here?
Janeth, every forum I have seen you on, all you ever do is come on and insult the posters when you have no knowledge on the issues anyway. So a member like you really is not needed anywhere, sorry I tell it like it is, but I have seen you at WPW, Webworkshop and many other forums and your input is really an insult to yourself as you insult others who have valuable contributions that you seem to take it upon yourself to shoot down, lady you ain't got no arrows. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O I don't care if you hang around, you are welcome to stay and so is Phil, but can you answer why you just sit around and insult other input? Can Phil explain why the issues I brought up on his joke forum were dismissed? Danny Sullivan is now writing about the Paid inclusion and traffic redirection issues now, they are in the headlines in this industry, how do you and Phil justifiy what you did to me on your censorship forum?
Actually, I hadn't realized how old this thread was when I posted in it, so I want to apologize to the forum for doing it and bringing him back here - sorry.
You still have a hard time addressing real issues don't you Phil, you have nothing to be sorry about other than your lack of input and your lack of contributions to subjects other than Google propaganda. Maybe one day Phil, you will shake off your Page Rank fixation, become objective, allow free speech and run a decent forum. You still have no answers do you Phil?
anthonycea Your are a joke and a lier you have been laughed out of so many forums it is not even fuuny. I will not waste my time with a 13 year old kid that has been droped on his head one too many times. Have fun in the one forum you have ot been banned from, yet
Yeah, Janeth, that is typical of every post I have ever seen from you on all forums, who would ever appoint you as a moderator has smoked way too much dope in his life :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, and Janeth are you now making decisions here at WM forums on who to ban, I did not know that you and Phil had control of this forum? I am sure that BK would sell it to you and Phil, I am also sure that neither of you have enough money to buy it. When you buy it will you make an announcement so all of the members can find other forums right away? 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:welcome welcome new people :)
Thanks edwin but it looks like where not wanted here. But you guys do have a nice forum and I hope you the best with it.
Yeah, Janeth, you do not like your own tactics when they are turned around and used on you now, neither does Phil. When you are able to give answers to important questions that are the subject of threads maybe folks will take you and Phil seriously. But, since you have no way of answering simple questions presented to you, is there any value in having you around? You jump into threads not to answer the questions presented or to debate, but simply to insult the thread starter, I think the link Phil posted from his censorship forum is a good example of how you two welcome new members to a forum. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
I've been looking around at some of the stuff you write in posts and in your blog, anthony, and to be absolutey honest (genuinely) I am very proud of what you write about me. To have someone like you writing those things is very gratifying. I've obviously done something right if I've got on your bad side 8) [quote:ca84356890="anthonycea"]When you are able to give answers to important questions that are the subject of threads maybe folks will take you and Phil seriously.[/quote:ca84356890] Important questions posed by 'important' people, no doubt? ;) It is clear that are important here when you issue orders to the members like:- [quote:ca84356890="anthonycea"]YOU ARE ALL TO TAKE NOTICE THAT SITEPOINT FORUMS AND SPYWARE WARRIOR ARE GUILTY OF CENSORSHIP ON GOOGLE SUBJECTS[/quote:ca84356890] I love it :D
First things first Phil, you can do nothing RIGHT, since you are so much in the wrong, you have to stop the direction you are going backward before you can turn around and go forward. As far as "Giving Orders", well I did not need to give them "Orders" on not going to your forum, just by exposing yourself here Phil, no one would waste time at your censorship and fabrication of lies forum. Phil, guess what, no one in the forum community needs you. You are not important, just face it Phil, the truth is out about your lies. You preach outdated technology and you can not even address simple issues and current events in the industry, you are not relevant Phil. Well Phil you and I would have got along fine if you were able to address current events and real issues, if you really want to gain something why not address the issues one by one on the following page since you claim to be "THE PAGE RANK EXPERT". http://www.searchwars.squarespace.com/display/ShowPage?moduleId=19899 Phil can you explain the above? If you can I will accept you and forgive you.
:welcome Welcome aboard, Janeth and PhilC. anthonycea, I think it's fair to call Phil a "PageRank Expert". His article on PageRank is referred to most often in online forums, etc as the premier piece. I understand you resent the whole concept of PageRank, but in this venue, Phil is definitely as big an expert as the other "False Messiahs of Google", as you might characterize them.
I welcome Phil to comment on the page I presented to him. It is just too bad he has a hard time answering questions on things other than his Page Rank theories. He will always be welcome to debate issues, too bad that he likes to cut debate off on his forum. Do you believe in free exchange of ideas Phil, or do we all have to follow your line of thought? 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
It would be a waste of time I have looked threw your post and you attack every one that does not agree with you. Which is everyone. I can not beleive this forum lets you sit and attack new members. I would ban you from my forum for doing it.
Like I said before Janeth, BK makes the rules here not you. He has established a fair forum without censoring members, that is why it is growing, maybe you seen some search results that brought you and Phil here to get members for your forums, hey Janeth? If you were running this forum many would leave, next question is who would contribute to a forum you were running anyway? You would have no members to ban Janeth. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :P :P :P :P :P :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: I can not beleive this forum lets you sit and attack new members. I would ban you from my forum for doing it. THE ABOVE QUOTE IS FROM JANETH It is kind of like what you and Phil did to me when I joined his censorship forum is it not Janeth?
I can only judge Anthony on his demeanor here. He definitely appears to have a bad rep on the forums, but myself, I don't get involved in any of these controversies, and he's acted okay here. For the year this site has been up, I haven't had to ban anyone. But Anthony, you should also realize that its [b:899b157bc6]okay to hate the game, but you don't need to hate the players.[/b:899b157bc6] I'm pretty sure Phil is not in on any conspiracies with Google :)
[quote:9df6926851="webmastery"]:welcome Welcome aboard, Janeth and PhilC.[/quote:9df6926851] Hi WM, and thank you. I've never been here before - interesting place :)
They are just here to spread propaganda and to place links to send members back to their forum, don't be fooled.
[quote:460764ca7c="anthonycea"]They are just here to spread propaganda and to place links to send members back to their forum, don't be fooled.[/quote:460764ca7c] LOL, I'll keep an eye out. It can't be worse than the Google Forum Spies that are gunning for you ;)
If they quit attacking me personally I will quit attacking them, I am still waiting for Phil to answer questions on issues, when he does this I will accept him and forgive him for whatever. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
[quote:9458dadd88="anthonycea"]Well Phil you and I would have got along fine if you were able to address current events and real issues, if you really want to gain something why not address the issues one by one on the following page since you claim to be "THE PAGE RANK EXPERT". Please address the issues 1 by 1 Phil, if you can do that I will accept you and forgive you. http://www.searchwars.squarespace.com/display/ShowPage?moduleId=19899[/quote:9458dadd88] And there's the rub, you see. (1) I don't want to get along fine with you. (2) I don't want to "gain something" - I'm fine as I am thank you. (3) I don't even claim to be "a" PageRank expert, let alone "the" PageRank expert. (4) I don't address issues simply because you request me to. (5) I am content without your acceptance and forgiveness. Thank you for the offer though. :D
Like I said before Phil, you do have a problem with current events and issues that you can not explain. You also love to control content on your forum as long as it runs parallel to your teachings. Do you support the open exchange of ideas on your forums Phil, or maybe that is another question you can not answer or address your highness. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
[quote:60e5a806d4="anthonycea"]It is kind of like what you and Phil did to me when I joined his censorship forum is it not Janeth?[/quote:60e5a806d4] (That was with reference to banning him from forums) You see, anthony, I just didn't want you there. I am perfectly happy for people to debate issues, whether I agree with them or not. What I'm not happy with are people who turn to insults and flames when they are not being agreed with. That's why I deleted your flame post and banned you. I think it was quite reasonable, given your history on other forums at the time. I am perfectly happy to be on your list of Google lovers, or Google supporters, or whatever you call them. You've never looked around my site have you ;) You might give it a whirl sometime.
[quote:1849fd7ae1="anthonycea"]Do you support the open exchange of ideas on your forums Phil, or maybe that is another question you can not answer or address your highness.[/quote:1849fd7ae1] I already answered that in the above post :) I *do* support the open exchange of ideas in my forum. I do *not* support *you* being part of it. Ok? All happy now? Good :D
Hard to argue with that, Anthonycea. He just doesn't like you. You have a few options: 1) Accept things as they are 2) Change yourself that you are better liked 3) Remain angry 4) Other That's really all anyone can do in a situation like this.
You really have no answers to give Phil, mostly BS, is that what your forum is about, that is what it looked like to me, a bunch of jokers with you leading the pack. Just look at the linked thread Phil left from his censorship forum, Phil why would I go to your site, to see filtered content? Maybe we all should be members of your forum so we can see one side of an issue, hey Phil? Maybe in the future Phil instead of attacking folks on their first post, you will afford them more respect, because you make a joke out of your forum otherwise. If the forum had any editorial integrity it might be a different story Phil, but since you cut out so much content, make jokes of new contributions that are very serious issues, I would never tell anyone that it is a forum for professionals to exchange ideas on in any way. Good luck with it, I think you need all the luck you can get. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
He's not required to have editorial integrity. He's not a media outlet. I assume he's a private citizen. As such, censorship arguments are rarely accurate. His website is his private property and ultimately he can run it as he sees fit. I think that's probably true of the other boards that banned you. I think even John Scott banned you and I believe JS and PhilC have banned each other. So you were a point they could agree on :)
Thanks for the welcome Big Kahuna I will ignore the little insects around here and think I will be fine. :wink:
John Scott banned me because his buddy Awall came on and quoted a Google spy and Awall did not like the fact that I set him back on that, guess who is John's moderator now? Phil is a censor for sure, that is a fact he has already admitted to in this thread, as far as his lies on me flaming others, they flamed me first, piled on in fact, he did not remove those comments. Phil is at his deciever act again right here in this thread, no one will fall for it. If forum members want to be lied to they would go read his stuff at his place or they can just read Phil Craven's and Janeth's lies and fabrications right here in this thread. They really think they can fool folks and manipulate minds, but only fool themselves. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
[quote:4f62f79949="webmastery"]I think even John Scott banned you and I believe JS and PhilC have banned each other. So you were a point they could agree on :)[/quote:4f62f79949] LOL!!!! I love that! :D But no, I don't ban people because of their views - not even John Scott :) (it's hard to type while I'm still chuckling). John banned me but I didn't return the honor. It's extremely rare for anyone to be banned from my place. If it happens, it's for badmouthing.
[quote:4171fd531f="anthonycea"]Phil is a censor for sure, that is a fact he has already admitted to in this thread, as far as his lies on me flaming others, they flamed me first, piled on in fact, he did not remove those comments. [/quote:4171fd531f] As you wish. The thread is still there for anyone who is remotely interested to see. I admitted to removing your flames. If that amounts to censorship, it's ok. It's no skin off my nose. I wish I could remember where I saw it today, but the funniest thing I read from anthony's writings is that he actually believes (or believed) that Google had planted a special cookie on him personally, and delivers (or delivered) special sets of results to him personally. Oh well.
The facts are, Google has planted a special cookie inside anthonycea brain. When doing this they had to remove a lot of the brain. This caused some effects that they where not looking for. anthonycea became very violent and escaped from the Google labs. So Google has spys out looking for him. Since he only has half a brain left it is really tough for him to understand the truth.
Anthonycea, what was it that set you against Google in the first place?
[quote:3c4ad7a035]Anthonycea, what was it that set you against Google in the first place?[/quote:3c4ad7a035] He was abducted by them as a small child where they did all types of test on him. :lol:
Ahh, he was one of the "Google Children". I thought they were just a myth. I can see why he hates them then :)
I'm sorry, guys. I just couldn't help making this quote - it's so funny. The "administrator" is the admin of WPW :mrgreen: [quote:86054cb8cb="anthonycea"]I have sent the administrator a letter saying that I will contact Overture a division of Yahoo that also advertises on their forum unless he gives me a good answer as to why he has such a bias moderator like CBP who edits out any comments that he thinks are negative to Google or his own bias opinions toward Google.[/quote:86054cb8cb]
the yahoo board of directors actually held a meeting after they received this correspondence from a.c they decided to ignore him. :P
hmm... Time for some holiday cheers up around here! I know it's time for fireworks~ just never really saw them here.. Happy 4th to all! Bottoms up! :twisted:
Time for a group hug and some "Koom Biyah"
Janeth and Phil, what a couple, Phil and Janeth like to talk about Google brain implants since they were the first GoogleZombie couple in the universe, they can not address real issues as their mouths are filled with BS. Phil and Janeth, the test did not go well after your GBI, cus you two are about as slow as a dead turtle. That is what they deal in pure BS and fabrications, Phil can not answer questions on industry issues presented to him on a forum, he shows what he is by that fact. No wonder John Scott got rid of his ARSE. Phil Craven, the con man of the internet, he brings the best out in everyone, so you know him by how folks respond to him, he is BullShit artist with a side kick that can not speak English. Phil can not think straight and Janeth can not speak straight, what a perfect couple. Put 1 and 1 together and you get -69, Phil you are the biggest jerk on the forum circuit, I think everyone is aware of that. It is funny Phil that you come here to show your true colors as the biggest fraud and fake in the entire internet community.
anthonycea, happy 4th of july!
Well, I hope it will be good for all the real members here. You have a good one Edwin 8O
[quote:b8274cb594="PhilC"]I'm sorry, guys. I just couldn't help making this quote - it's so funny. The "administrator" is the admin of WPW :mrgreen: [quote:b8274cb594="anthonycea"]I have sent the administrator a letter saying that I will contact Overture a division of Yahoo that also advertises on their forum unless he gives me a good answer as to why he has such a bias moderator like CBP who edits out any comments that he thinks are negative to Google or his own bias opinions toward Google.[/quote:b8274cb594][/quote:b8274cb594] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That is too funny. I bet Google and Yahoo both sit around and laugh at this guy.
True to your form Janeth (how did you become a moderator on all of these forums?) you cut and paste something instead of coming up with original posts. You are a real winner, if I were to waste time looking at your posts from other forums and cut and pasted them here Janeth, it would be repeating stupidity over and over, I would not bother doing it Janeth. If folks want to see how smart you are they can find your posts, why don't you tell everyone where you are a moderating at Janeth? By my count you are a moderator at WPW, TOP25 and Phil's censorship forum. Any other forums we should be aware of that you moderate (censor and ruin the forum) on Janeth? Then they can go find the vast wisdom that you give the community on their own by reviewing all of your posts :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: If anyone is laughing at anyone Janeth it would be you and Iron Fist Phil.
I will be starting a post today at http://www.geeksonsteroids.com/forum/index.php it will be who everyone thinks is the stupidest stupidest online. I really feel like you have a shot at this one. The reason I picked this forum is it is the only one I can find that you have not been banned from yet. The winner gets to come here to Colombia for an all expense paid trip.
Just cut and paste your Photo as the opening post Janeth, the thread would end right there. Just like I told everyone, this sick woman is just here to highjack traffic to her forum for the mentally ill. Don't waste time with Janeth folks, she really is sick, take my word for it. 8O :x 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
How old are you really? 13
Janeth, do you and Phil launder money in the forum business for your real business, lets just think folks, what is Columbia's biggest export and cash crop, I wonder since these folks really are not professional forum operators if they just use forums as a cover for their real activities. You have to support and prop up your businesses somehow since they are of no value to the internet community Janeth, it looks like a front business to me Janeth. No one who is a professional in the internet industry needs you or Phil for anything now do they Janeth? Better get back to your real business Janeth, quit trying to make us all believe you are a internet business professional. You really are wasting your time, everyone can see through you and Phil completely. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :? :? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Yes you are right anthonycea I see you have a strong backing. Where is your forum?
Boy oh Boy... Is it me.. or is there some tension... Come on people.. can't we all just get along??? hehe I'm with Brigid! Happy 4th everyone!! I love fireworks! It's Independence Day...!! errr.. well almost ;-)
Yeah we will all get along when the propaganda agents are no longer, if members look at Phil's censorship forum, then go to Janeth's censorship forum they will see the same set of ads on the right hand side of the page, what this tells me is that Phil Craven is behind Janeth's forum also. Phil and Janeth, why do you come here to promote your censorship forums? Janeth does Phil host your forum on his servers? We know that both of you have a hard time answering questions presented to you, but can you answer these questions? BK not only do you have Phil trying to highjack your members but you have two censorship forum hosts trying to highjack your traffic. Only in America would someone think they are fooling folks and still think of themselves as professionals, WOW, what ever happened to integrity. These folks are really reaching into the gutter, you know what happens when you reach into the gutter don't you? Let's put it this way, you don't come out smelling like a rose. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
the fireworks are supposed to be outside!
they say that they are better outside alright
[quote:d81a371542="anthonycea"]Put 1 and 1 together and you get 69[/quote:d81a371542] What a damned good idea. [b:d81a371542]Janeth!!!!![/b:d81a371542] ....................... [b:d81a371542]Janeth!!![/b:d81a371542] .................................. bloody women - never around when you want them. Oh well - it'll have to be d.i.y. (I'm decorating a room!!! Get yer minds out of the gutter!!!) ;)
Your the winner anthonycea http://www.geeksonsteroids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4819#4819 The stupidest person ever to operate a computer. All you have to do is come to Colombia and we have your prize. Let me know when your coming and I will have people pick you up at the airport.
money laundering on the forums? i mean we all knew dmoz had corrupt webmasters but this is unreal!
You've never come across it, Edwin? I'm amazed. I won't steal anthony's thunder - I'll leave it to him to explain how it's done, if it's alright with you ;)
alright. im going swimming. that should give him ample time to explain the money laundering. i hope its one of his long posts. wait they all are long! please write it in a tutorial format ac because that field sounds like something i might like to get into! :P
Phil I think it would be much quicker if you just posted your and Janeth's photos then you would have the two biggest fools online and the two biggest scumbags ever to appear on the internet. Phil you still have not answered the question you parasite, do you host Janeth's forum? Did you come here to draw members to your censorship forums Phil. Can you next tell us about your website put up to attack Jill W. you sorry old goat. Phil I will put up threads on you and your sick girlfriend, I think it will be called the two most dreadfully ugly folks in the history of the internet.
anthonycea it is good that they have made the Internet for people like you. Because you can be big siting in front of your computer where no one can see you. I'm sure you have some problems your moma never held you when you where a baby and everyone picked on you when you where in school. Since I know we will nevr met I will let you be big because this is most likely the only time in your life you get to be that way.
Janeth, please take your forum and Phil and stick them both where the Sun don't shine. You and Phil Craven are "Black Death" to the professionals in the internet community. Anyone can see by your posts that you have zero intelligence, that is very plain. Janeth you and Phil Craven offer no value to the internet profession period. You both are a blight on the forum circuit, you come here to promote your scumbag forums, that is all you are here for Janeth, I have nothing to hide Janeth, but you and Phil will be hiding under the rock you slimeballs crawled out from under soon. You can bet on that. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
[quote:0ae72ed1f2] I have nothing to hide Janeth, but you and Phil will be hiding under the rock you slimeballs crawled out from under soon. You can bet on that. [/quote:0ae72ed1f2] Sounds like a threat. Let me know when your coming I already have a group of people willing to pick you up from the airport and show you a good time. Where all waiting to meet you.
Have those same folks slip a package in Phil's suitcase so he can smoke some when he gets back to the states. I just hope it does not blow up in his face like it did when Richard Pryor hit on his pipe. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Janeth, I know you are in need of friends but you would never be on my list of someone to visit, what a waste of time that would be, meeting you and Phil online is bad enough. To see either of you in person would not be a highlight in anyones life. 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
I LOVE THIS THREAD! I really do :D anthonycea, I love the entertainment in this thread so much that I've unbanned you from my forum. I can't make you come back, but I hope you do. *not* instead of here, but as well as here. WebMastery, I think you may have seen something that I and the other forums didn't spot - he's extremely entertaining. I just love it :mrgreen:
Phil, why don't you just admit that you are here to try to drive traffic from other forums to yours since you just have no members that want to hear from you any longer. If you were honest and objective folks would spend time with you, but nobody likes a lier and a censor. I wish you the best Phil, but I can get on your forum anytime with or without your permission, I would not waste my time for any reason with you Phil. The only reason I respond to you here is to expose you and Janeth's scams. You have no way of addressing issues Phil, you are a clown, no one that is a professional can take you seriously. Good luck in the entertainment business, I doubt you will make it there either. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Everyone keeps coming over here to see why I'm laughing. It is great this guy is so stupid it is funny. This could be the forum clown. Can we get a picture of you anthonycea? Put on a clown suit ( you may already have one on ) It could be like a full time job you can go around to different forums and post once people got to understand how full of S*** you are they would think it was funny also.
You're not coming back? Damn! I just prepared the way for you:- http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?t=1190&start=30 Ok anthony, you've been such good entertainment value that I'll answer one of your questions, but only one. Neither Janeth nor I came here to attract people to our forums. But having been so greatly entertained in this thread, I would really like to get you back in mine. I don't want to take you from here, but I would like to share you. :D I am tempted to tell everyone what you will say now that I've answered one of your questions, but gave an answer that you don't agree with. I'm tempted to tell them that you will say something like, "See, I told you he is a liar." and, to your way of thinking, you would have "won" that point. I'm also tempted to point out that, if I'd said yes, I came here to poach members, you would have said something like, "See. I told you that's why he came", and you would also have "won" that point. But I'm not going to tell people that. Instead, I'll just quote something that Minstrel wrote about you in his forum:- [quote:fae6a1becf]Clinically, it resembles a paranoid disorder or paranoid personality disorder - what he wants to do is gather support for his conspiracy theory - if he can rope people into letting him expound and manage to find one or two people that even slightly agree (or in his perception slightly agree) with him, then he "wins" - if people tell him he's crazy, then they become another part of the conspiracy, or at best dupes of Google, so he still "wins" in his mind. [/quote:fae6a1becf]
anthonycea is one of my favorite posters. he tells is like it is. or at least how he thinks it is.
[quote:6f29773079]he tells is like it is. or at least how he thinks it is.[/quote:6f29773079] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: He is welcome on my forum also :lol:
He could rapidly become the most popular forum member around. Forum owners could end up paying him to post in their forums. Maybe you'd better get him under contract WebMastery, before some enterprising person signs him up, and rents him out to forums 8)
Maybe WebMastery should rent him out.
On a CPP basis (Cost Per Post)?
On a CPMM basis (Cost Per Mad Member)?
Sounds as if his 'entertaining' thoughts weren't appreciated up till today. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind your sudden 'lift' of your bans? If he did something so bad to get banned in the first place, you should stick with your decision to *keep him out* It's like a cop out on a ban. Do you want him back to argue? It seems like it to me. Why would you both welcome him back? Just wondering.. **Recollection od AnthonyCea mentioning something about this in one of his original threads~DEJA-VU!**
Hi Brigid. If his conspiracy theories are taken seriously, then he'd be banned from almost anywhere, simply because he quickly resorts to flames due to the fact that no rationally-minded person can possibly agree with him. On that level, I wouldn't want him back, and that's the level that he gets banned from forums, including mine. But I've seen much more of his flames in this thread, and they are so over-the-top and outlandish that they can't possibly be taken seriously by anyone. That makes him very entertaining, and that's the reason why I've lifted the ban.
He has never posted nor has he ever been baned from my forum. I think he is fun to have around but he needs to not flame people so much. I would have never banned him from my forum unless he started flamming people.
Ooooooh.. I see. Well I guess it his decision on whether or not he wants to entertain at your board/s . whatever he decides great luck to you and Janeth :)
Thank you Brigid. He said he wouldn't return, and I don't think he will, but there ya go :)
Thanks Brigid good luck to you also :wink:
I guess that is what happens sometimes. You close the door on someone and they decide never to return. I checked out your forum, Janeth. I wouldn't ban anyone either :)
I can understand how an intense bitterness can come into existence towards people, for what ever reasons. But the intensity of the anger displayed here by anthonycea, will hurt him, and decrease his chances for any genuine satisfaction, assuming that satisfaction is attainable, based on justified reasons for the anger. I have read every post in this thread, and still can not come to a reasonable conclusion as to the reason for the magnitude of this bitterness.
Hi Brigid, [quote:ebb35963e6]I checked out your forum, Janeth. I wouldn't ban anyone either [/quote:ebb35963e6] Are you saying my forum is so bad I should not ban anyone. :oops:
he's mad about being banned. i was banned one time from a message board. it sucked! i went to post and it was like you dont have permission to post! and i was like what the heck? it was not a good feeling at all.
In other words... WTF? :lol:
That's easy Atom. He appeared in my forum some time ago and posted one of his Google conspiracy theories. Immediately people pointed to threads in other forums where he'd caused a negative stir because of the silliness of his theories, so nobody took him seriously at my place. Not many posts in, he posted a load of flames, like he's been doing through this thread. So I deleted the post, decided that he was an undesirable character, and banned him. From then on, he's been posting and writing wherever he can that my forum is censored when anything negative is posted about Google, plus many choice insults about me personally. It was his 'flame' post that I deleted; his conspiracy theory posts are still there. If that's censorship, I'm fine with it. So when I arrived here, he simply mounted his hobby-horse and got stuck in. It's par for the course with him. He relates Janeth to me, so he got stuck into her as well - if you'll pardon the expression :oops:
[quote:db5506c783="edwin"]he's mad about being banned. i was banned one time from a message board. it sucked! i went to post and it was like you dont have permission to post! and i was like what the heck? it was not a good feeling at all.[/quote:db5506c783] Well I would suggest that he figure out how not to get banned, then. Many people have figured this out, even without prior banning.
I think it's funny. All this ado about nothing. Sorry if that is the way you took that Janeth.. It wasn't what I meant at all. You just did a lot of name calling is all for being a "newbie" that never said a "hello" before dropping a sig file. especially for a thread that originated May 12th 2004 and awakened to troll Anthonycea and raise his blood pressure. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. I have saw moderators (from other boards) chase this man down to "argue" some point about some "thing" It just seems stupid to me and almost like something a 13 year old would do..
:welcome glad to see all the new people packing flame throwers :)
all???? I don't think so.
HI Brigid, [quote:def5d64a6b]You just did a lot of name calling is all for being a "newbie" that never said a "hello" [/quote:def5d64a6b] Hello, If you check back I think I was getting called a lot of names. I tend to try and return the favor. Being a newbie has nothing to do with that. [quote:def5d64a6b] before dropping a sig file. [/quote:def5d64a6b] I drop the sig file because I know when I'm talking to people I like to see somthing that shows who they are good or bad. It was not done for any other reason. [quote:def5d64a6b] especially for a thread that originated May 12th 2004 and awakened to troll Anthonycea and raise his blood pressure. [/quote:def5d64a6b] I found it threw Google and did not look at the date. Sorry my bad.
[quote:a34e08c0f4="Brigid"]I think it's funny. All this ado about nothing. Sorry if that is the way you took that Janeth.. It wasn't what I meant at all. You just did a lot of name calling is all for being a "newbie" that never said a "hello" before dropping a sig file. especially for a thread that originated May 12th 2004 and awakened to troll Anthonycea and raise his blood pressure. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. I have saw moderators (from other boards) chase this man down to "argue" some point about some "thing" It just seems stupid to me and almost like something a 13 year old would do..[/quote:a34e08c0f4] Oh... Hello .. :) sorry .. :oops:
I think you were just joking about all the new people coming with flamethrowers, edwin, but I don't believe that you can find any flames in any of my posts - and I did apologise for resurecting the thread when I realised how old it was, Brigid. But it was too late when I realized its age. Yesterday, I was pointed to... [quote:12e6391efd="anthonycea"]... some of the other forums like WPW and SearchGuild and WebWorkshop and SEOchat have no editorial integrity whatsoever.[/quote:12e6391efd] ...which could be seen as a flame (insult), although it could also be seen as an opinion. Either way, it's definitely an untruth, whether intentional or not. So nobody came to troll, and I don't think you'll find any trolling. But getting back to the orginal topic (WPW censoring on Google subjects), I did look at the WPW thread (evidence) that anthonycea linked to, when he stated that "You can see the censorship of my comments many times in the following link." I found only one edited post, which is not quite the way that he'd put it across. The edit said that "No censorship - just personall insults from your messages are edited out." "messages" - so there may have been several messages affected. It was somewhat after the event, but I posted an observation here that anthonycea didn't say what he'd posted at WPW that had been edited out, and he still didn't say what it was after I mentioned it. Now, I may not be thinking clearly, and do tell me if that's the case, but since he is very good at producing an incredible amount of insults, as can be seen in this thread, and since the mod at WPW stated that only insults had been removed, isn't it reasonable to suppose that only his insults were edited out at WPW? I think it is. And if that's true, then his WPW conspiracy theory takes a bit of a nose-dive.
:welcome to ya'll..
the whole trouble with censorship is that its not easy to go back and see what happened. who knows how many posts were deleted or edited. we have no way of knowing.
[quote:adb2002168="edwin"]:welcome glad to see all the new people packing flame throwers :)[/quote:adb2002168] Did I flame, Edwin? I'm not exactly sure .... let me know if I did so that I can gain a better understanding of what that is... I'm kinda new and never really have gained a proper understanding of this term.
[quote:3222038c27="Brigid"]:welcome to ya'll..[/quote:3222038c27] Thank you, Brigid .. :)
no, i guess none of you flamed. you did ignore our customary hello thread in the hello forum. you didn't say hello and oddly enough it appears at least two of you have hello forums of your own so you are familiar with the custom 3 posters registered simultaneously and joined a thread all attacking one of our regular posters. since most of your complaints conerning anthony concern etiquette its worth pointing out. darrin ward of seochat.com also came here and flamed anthonycea, including profanity. i disagree with anthonycea on a lot of the points he makes but in 100s of posts we've exchanged we've never got into any type of argument. so when he complains about getting censored online i will at least consider the possibility it happened to him.
Honestly, I don't think the reason I came was to flame, I think that I hope not, anyway.. lol I just came cause I wanted to be a kid again .. :lol:
there's nothing wrong with that. its great to be a kid but it doesn't last long :)
Ok... I posted an introduction in the "Hello" topic... may I please get to flaming now? :lol: .. j/k .. :lol:
I'm sorry. In my experience, it's common to say "hello" but it's also common not to. It's not something that I would have thought anything about. If you look back, I think you'll find that only 2 people arrived more-or-less simultaneously. Atom arrived much later. Also, other people from our forums have been here reading this thread, although they didn't register. As for flaming, again if you look back, you'll see that almost all of the flames come from anthonycea. And there are some extremely bad ones. Also, if you look back, you'll find that I didn't attack him at all in any way. If my memory is on the blink (it's not impossible), please correct me with a quote. As far as not being "easy to go back and see what happened" where censorship is concerned, you are right. I suppose one has to weight the probabilities. In anthony's case, the probablilites are that only insults were censored at WPW. Why is that probable? Because insults are what he's very good at, as can be seen here, and because he's been banned from plenty of forums for doing it. And also, because he's very good at going around complaining about censorship when only insults have been censored. Admittedly you probably didn't know that at the time.
sure. i mean i dont care if you flame anthonycea. hes a big boy and he can take it. i think hes off hitting the crack pipe right now anyway. he will probably stumble in in a few hours find this thread and pass out.
:lol: now that's funny! .. :lol: I hope that you guys know each other pretty well... :lol:
I would think getting new members would be a good thing.
Let's have a barbecue. I have some buns and potato chips.
Great! But I prefer Janeth's buns :oops:
i forgive you all. i am with big rob! i have a 12 pack of pepsi. i have some 50 cent cds too. so that can be entertainment.
I've got some Hamburgers and fresh veggies.. ..and sparklers!!!
i should also warn the new people. careful of threadjackings. youd be amazed at the amount of those that happen here.
What are "threadjackings"? Changing the topics?
exactly. it happens all the time around here. btw, what are you bringing to the bbq?
[quote:ee19cf725a="edwin"]exactly. it happens all the time around here.[/quote:ee19cf725a] My place is guilty of that - a lot. Threads seem to evolve into interesting chat after a while - usually when the topic has been pretty well covered - pretty much like this thread. [quote:ee19cf725a="edwin"]btw, what are you bringing to the bbq?[/quote:ee19cf725a] The girls - what else is there? 8O
thats exactly what we needed! hey mr c. i have a question. you know you go to a sales website and they always have those testimonials in yellow boxes? well 2 things. 1) how come they make the sales pitch so long? 2) how do they make the yellow box? thats whats on my mind right now.
I think I know the sort of sites you mean - almost one huge page of sales blurb? I've never been involved with one but I'd guess that they are trying to lead the visitor through from curiosity to sale, building up the visitor's interest along the way. There's a very good tutorial on it at http://www.adcopywriting.com/Tutorials_List.htm - it's not about those sites specifically, but it's damned good for learning about writing sales copy. The yellow boxes? The background color of table cells or a of css defined area - or have I misunderstood that question?
yeah. so just make a table div with a yellow background. put an order button every 2 paragraphs of text. i think they do it to wear the reader down. they keep answering objections until finally the visitor gives up and buys. when i graduate college i am gonna open a web business like that. i think that might be the best thing. would i be better of selling an ebook or a product?
An ebook *is* a product, but you mean something physical as distinct from a downloadable file, right? It's your choice. Physical items need to be posted, and selling files can be totally automated - no work. But physical stuff generally makes more money. I tried selling my body at one time, but there were no takers :(
yeah me too. i actually lost money in the gigolo business.
bloody hell i go away for a few hours and i come back to this...5 pages later... tone has changed alot but did anyone ask anthony to the bbq...
hes definitely invited to the roast!
:mrgreen:
Fact number #1 Phil Craven has a hard time understanding logic unless he makes it up in his own mind. Example: In this thread he states that I said at one time that Google was delivering special results to me and had set a cookie for me exclusively. Truth, I was making fun of his forum with that sarcastic statement, because of their blindness in not seeing Google redirection of search traffic to ADSENSE publishing partners, the subject of the thread that Phil made fun of at his censorship forum. Everyone can plainly see the redirection of traffic to ADSENSE by going to www.webcenter.squarespace.com Look at all the search links on the home page, run them and tell this forum what you see members. Something that is too hard for Phil to do since he has a hard time addressing issues in this industry so he can continue on his silly clown campaign. Second Fact: Phil fabricates lies about WPW censorship, he claims that CBP (a known Google spy, as is Phil Craven, "The Page Rank Teacher") only removed flames, when infact Phil does not know what was removed at all, he was not there. Phil is a lier to come before this forum and make any statements about this at all, he just does not know what he is talking about, but that is Vintage Phil Craven. Fact number 3, Phil has addressed no questions asked to him on this forum on industry issues, this goes to show he is no professional, he is simply here to try to gain publicity for a very sorry forum that is filled to the brim with "Phil Craven suck asses", Phil can you tell us when you hold worship services so some of our trader members here can join in? When presented with links to explain to this forum, Phil would not even answer, Why you ask? Because he knows that he is boxed into a corner, he knows that for sure, that is why he will not answer, the man has no integrity and is here to create attention for himself, his forum has no traffic so he is here to try to generate some. Next fact that really shows his silly ways, he removes a ban on someone who wants nothing to do with him or Janeth, Janeth has the nerve to ask me to come on her forum, what a joke. Phil claims in this thread that he never flamed me, insulting the members intelligence here. members can see in the thread at Phil's censorship forum that they were the ones who flamed me and dismissed a very important issue when it was presented to Phil's censorship and joke forum, that being the Google redirection of traffic into ADSENSE publishers websites that can be seen at www.webcenter.squarespace.com This is something that Phil can not address or explain. In addition to that, they put threads up on both of their fourms to flame me and to use my name to try to gain traffic to their shit forums, both of the forums (Phil's and Janeth's censorship and joke forums for bottomfeeders) are filled to the brim with the most unprofessional folks in the industry and some of the dumbest moderators ever born. Don't worry Phil, you can bet your day is coming, you will be famous that is a sure thing. Phil, I asked you this question before, another one you have not bothered to answer. Can you tell us about the SEOBitch site you started? The members would like to know the history of that site Phil since you never flame anyone that disagrees with you. Next Phil, since you are so smart and are the Page Rank Big Shot, can you go into the Florida update for us all (it was the ADWORDS update folks, where Google diluted the SERP's to force webmasters to buy ADWORDS) Phil has a unique disagreement going with Jill W. on the "FLORIDA" update, he even put up a special website on the issue, please tell us all about your theory on this Phil, the members would like to see something other than your fabrications and silly statements. Show us how smart you really are professor.
[quote:1d58089dbe="anthonycea"]the members would like to see something other than your fabrications and silly statements.[/quote:1d58089dbe] Not "this" member, anthony .. What I would rather see, is you using a little tact and diplomacy ... with a little psychology thrown in .... not outright savage anger! Don't you realize that this hurts you? Are you some kind of glutton for punishment or what? The more you exhibit your anger and bitterness in such a hostile manner, the more intense the negativity that you invite. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out! Smarten up before you get banned from another friggin forum, FFS! Chill, and use some tact!
Atom, do you have anything to offer, or are you going to make judgements on style here? Your comments add nothing to the subject of the thread Atom. When you are ready to focus on facts presented, let this forum know. Until then it looks like you will continue to be on the sidelines. 8O :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: Don't worry about me hurting myself man, I can take whatever you and your hero Phil can dish out. This forum is waiting for Phil to provide something other than BS. The main question is this, is Phil able to answer questions on industry issues or will he continue with his silly member highjacking campaign?
Ok .. :)
Janeth, I am sorry for the ugly comment, the more I look at your photo, the more attractive I think you are. Phil, I will not say you are pretty until you start answering questions presented. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8O
Janeth is HOTT! But she's married .. :cry: Oh well ... I told her if she wasn't married, I'd be down in Colombia sitting on her doorstep swatting mosquito's and wondering how I was going to get home, after she told me to hit the road .. :lol:
janeth is one spicy dish! :P
It's like this anthony. I do not do things simply because you demand that I do them. You don't have that sort of clout, I'm afraid. Also, you appear to have problems reading, or understanding, what is in front of your eyes, but I'll address your stated "Facts" for you if you like. [b:0d87860082]Fact #1[/b:0d87860082] [quote:0d87860082]Phil Craven has a hard time understanding logic unless he makes it up in his own mind. Example: In this thread he states that I said at one time that Google was delivering special results to me and had set a cookie for me exclusively. Truth, I was making fun of his forum with that sarcastic statement, because of their blindness in not seeing Google redirection of search traffic to ADSENSE publishing partners, the subject of the thread that Phil made fun of at his censorship forum. [/quote:0d87860082] People who write humorous statements, as you now say that yours was, indicate the humour with a smiley or similar. You didn't. You meant what you wrote. [b:0d87860082]Fact #2[/b:0d87860082] [quote:0d87860082]Phil fabricates lies about WPW censorship, he claims that CBP (a known Google spy, as is Phil Craven, "The Page Rank Teacher") only removed flames, when infact Phil does not know what was removed at all, he was not there.[/quote:0d87860082] Re-read what I said, anthony. I didn't state what was removed. I stated what the mod said he removed and what the probabilites were that he was telling the truth. Isn't English your first language? [b:0d87860082]Fact #3[/b:0d87860082] [quote:0d87860082]Phil has addressed no questions asked to him on this forum on industry issues, this goes to show he is no professional....(etc.)[/quote:0d87860082] It's true that I haven't addressed any industry-type questions here, but your conclusions are wrong. Abhorent as it may seem to you, I am not at your beck and call, and I don't spend time answering questions just because you ask them. Other people's research and conclusions into your claims are good enough for me, especially since, wherever you go, the unanimous conclusion is that you are wrong. That's good enough for me. [b:0d87860082]Fact #4[/b:0d87860082] [quote:0d87860082]Phil claims in this thread that he never flamed me[/quote:0d87860082] And I didn't. If you think otherwise, please quote my flame(s). Allow me to explain what a "flame" is. It is badmouthing people, stating lies about people, making false accusations against people, and things like that. You can look where you like, not only in this thread, and you won't find any flames from me anywhere - not even in my seo-bitch.com (*with* a hyphen) site. If you want to see many examples of real flames, read your own posts in this thread :) On the subject of the seo-bitch site, and since you asked me to tell you about it, I already told you about it on the site itself ( http://www.seo-bitch.com/about.html ). What more do you want me to say? Incidentally, you won't find any flames on that site either - just truth, backed up with real evidence. For "seo bitch" flames, you would have had to see Jill Whalen's seo bitch site before my site forced her to take it down. [quote:0d87860082]since you are so smart and are the Page Rank Big Shot, can you go into the Florida update for us all...[/quote:0d87860082] Thank you for the compliments, but, no. I already went into the Florida update a long time ago - in my site. Go and read it. When you get back, please note that I stopped believing my Florida theory a long time ago. [quote:0d87860082]Phil has a unique disagreement going with Jill W. on the "FLORIDA" update, he even put up a special website on the issue...[/quote:0d87860082] You are mistaken, anthony. In the first place, my disagreement with her is far from being "unique". Loads of people have nothing but bad to say about her - even some who she sees as friends. I didn't put up "a special website about the issue". The website is about Jill Whalen, and not about 'Jill Whalen and the Florida update', although her take on the Florida update is part of it - but only part of it. There you are anthony. I have finally given you some serious answers. Happy now? :) I'll tell you in advance that I am not going to debate them with you. I know that you'll come back with a stack of disagreements and flames, but nothing is new, is it. And, btw, please don't tell me that I'm pretty. I don't think my nerves could stand it. :?
Thank you Anthonycea, Edwin and Atom. You guys made my day :oops:
Phil, I can tell you for a fact that you are wrong on the WPW censorship issue, CBP deleted many entire threads on the Google traffic redirection issue using the personal insult excuse as the reason. It was not just in the thread illustrated here that comments were altered (under the claim of those comments being insults to other members), what WAS removed and deleted from the record were comments like, "please have a Google representative come on the forum to explain these search results". This guy removed many entire threads since he himself was shown to be wrong before the entire forum. I was banned because I proved CBP (the censor moderator) wrong so many times, even by Google's own pages that I used against his statements. Next Phil, if you do not wish to enter into discussion on industry issues here, can you explain why you are here? I really thought all along that is what these forums were about, maybe I just need to find some professional forums to discuss these issues on Phil, not those that simply want to gossip and be entertained. Can you tell us all why you feel I am wrong about wanting to discuss important industry issues like traffic redirection by Google into affiliated ADSENSE publishers websites? Can you tell us why Phil Craven takes the word of uninformed bias individuals, using this faulty information to come to a conclusion on these issues without giving your OWN feedback and opinion, are you afraid to give an honest opinion here Phil? Can you explain why Danny Sullivan is doing a series of articles on this same paid inclusion issue at this time, everyone can see these articles at http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3355221 Just look for the Yahoo awakens the paid inclusion issue in the above link, you will see that this discussion is very similar to the things I have been discussing on www.webcenter.squarespace.com since March of 2004 So Phil, when you admit that you may be a bit on the wrong side of this issue since you dismissed it as a joke when it was presented on your forum, then maybe I will take you seriously also.
whats the big deal all about anyway :? :?:
i think philc and anthonyc should become friends. bury the hatchet and all that. im thinking of going to the water park today.
whats at the water park?
Just a quickie because I'll be going out very soon. I can't disgaree with you about what was deleted at WPW, anthony, because, as you said, I didn't see it. A question about the "entire threads" being deleted: how many posts were in each thread on average. I could imagine that they each consisted of just your post, and that you started each one when the previous one was deleted - but that would be just my imagination. [quote:9d32f5a594]Next Phil, if you do not wish to enter into discussion on industry issues here, can you explain why you are here, I really thought all along that is what these forums were about.[/quote:9d32f5a594] I thought I'd already said why i came here.If not, I came when somebody pointed me to this thread because an untruth had been stated about my forum. That's the only reason that I came here. Forums are not just for discussing industry topics. [quote:9d32f5a594]Can you tell us all why you feel I am wrong about wanting to discuss important industry issues like traffic redirection by Google into affiliated ADSENSE publishers websites? [/quote:9d32f5a594] I never said you were wrong about wanting to discuss it. I said that I trust the unanimous conclusions on other forums that your theory is wrong. But I don't even suggest that you ar wrong to want to discuss it. However, I would suggest that you take notice of what everyobody else has concluded about your theories. And I would also suggest that you learn to avoid flaming. Nobody will discuss your theories with you if you flame people when they don't agree with you. [quote:9d32f5a594]Can you tell us why to take the work of uninformed bias individuals and use this faulty information to come to a conclusion on these issues without giving your OWN feedback on the issues, are you afraid to give an honest opinion here Phil? [/quote:9d32f5a594] I already answered that. I choose to accept the unanimous conclusions that everybody has come to rather than spend time on it myself. I run a forum where people discuss whatever they like (within reason). I don't put myself up to answer every question that people post, or to reply to every theory that somebody posts. It's a forum for people, and not Dr. Phil's Seo Surgery. Ask WebMastery about running a forum. I can't explain Danny Sullivan's articles because I haven't read them, and I'm not particularly interested in reading them at the moment. Has he published them yet? You said he's writing the articles, but it doesn't mean that he is agreeing with your theory. He could be writing a refutation of your theory. I'll read them if you post links to them. It may be that you think I put myself forward to advise, help, discuss, etc. seo issues with people, but I don't. I'm not even a big user of forums. I started mine for one particular reason, and it wasn't to promote myself. I'm only interested in promoting myself to potential clients, and my website (not the forum area) does that all by itself. When I write articles, I put them on my site, but I don't offer them to other sites or publications (the Florida article was the one exception - I informed one publication about it). You see, I don't promote myself around the SEO community, and I certainly don't put myself forward to discuss any theories than come along - not even in my own forum. Just out of interest - I said I wouldn't debate my previous post with you. I honestly expected a load more flames, just like the ones you posted since I arrived here, and like the ones you've been posting and writing anywhere you could for a while. But you didn't write stuff like that - and you got a rational reply from me. See what a difference it makes? But still don't expect me to discuss your theories with you. It doesn't matter whether or not I agree with them - I'm not important, and I ahve better things to do with my time - like now I'm going bowling!
[quote:df14cbfd74="PhilC"]Just a quickie because I'll be going out very soon.[/quote:df14cbfd74] lol
LOL!!! yeah - it was meant to be short :D
Sorry Phil, you keep landing on the wrong side of these things, but when entire threads were deleted at WPW and Sitepoint there were many posts other than mine in those threads, they were deleted by moderators who were protecting Google. The threads got to the point of being so conclusive on the traffic redirection issue where I started asking for Google representatives to come on the forum to explain, when this happened and no one on the board could give answers to explain, the threads were removed from both forums to protect Google. Sorry Phil, Google Guy is not the only Spy Goolge has placed on forums. If you do not understand this that is your problem, all of these companies have PR representation on the forum circuit, some paid and some that are simply unpaid Google Zealots that say no wrong, do no wrong and will try to stop any comments they think will hurt the Google PR machine that exists on the forum circuit.
[quote:b81e66b7b5="oneill"]whats at the water park?[/quote:b81e66b7b5] water slides. a 500 foot lazy river! etc etc! girls in bikinis. am i making my point? :P
I didn't actually land on either side, anthony. I said that "I could imagine..." - that was all. It's a pity you didn't keep the threads as evidence, but you must agree that your "flaming" performances would lead people to believe that that is more likely to be the reason for posts and threads being deleted - especially when the moderator says it is. But I do reject your ideas about Google spies for 2 reasons. (1) They don't need them - the forums are open for all to see, and they really don't need to have the sort of theories that you expound censored. Whether or not certain forums are willing to acceed to any requests to remove certain information that Google make is another matter. But I do reject the idea of Google planting people as mods or admins in forums. They are a bit bigger than that. Posts and threaas get removed for various reasons - not because someone is divulging things about Google. maybe that happens at WMW, but that would be all. (2) You accused me of being one :) You should go and read some of the articles on my site ;)
Now Phil you SAY you never flamed me, but making a joke out of research on industry issues is a flame and an insult. That is what you did on your forum when this issue was presented to you. I put the link in on the articles to Danny Sullivan below http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3355221 Is the thread that you and Janeth put up on her forum a flame Phil? It sure seems like that to me. Do you not expect a come back Phil? If both of you want to start a propaganda war that is alright with me since that is what I am good at. Both of you need to decide if this is the direction you wish to take it, if so I would say that both of your forums will become targets for me. You did censor the thread at your forum Phil so how you can come here and say that is not true is just unfounded.
[quote:a11167baa4="edwin"][quote:a11167baa4="oneill"]whats at the water park?[/quote:a11167baa4] water slides. a 500 foot lazy river! etc etc! girls in bikinis. am i making my point? :P[/quote:a11167baa4] I was thinking it might have something to do with water alright
Oneill, you now see how Edwin weasels his way into looking at young women. You should fly over here and join in on the fun. 8O
i don't need to fly nowhere!
[quote:5524abd463="anthonycea"]Now Phil you SAY you never flamed me, but making a joke out of research on industry issues is a flame and an insult.[/quote:5524abd463] [quote:5524abd463="anthonycea"]Is the thread that you and Janeth put up on her forum a flame Phil? It sure seems like that to me. Do you not expect a come back Phil?[/quote:5524abd463] It depends on what was actually said. Let's see the quotes please. You've made statements without offering any evidence, so let's see the quotes. I read the Danny Sullivan article, but it's only one article. He talks about a series of them, but the series isn't linked to - maybe it's not been written yet. The article you linked to is about Yahoo!, and not Google. Google does get a mention here and there though. At one point he says about AdWords that "the incentive for favoritism is there", but he doesn't suggest anywhere that Google is actually doing it - just that they could use their AdWords system in a profitable way by favoring the advertisers in the serps. But you've been stating that Danny Sullivan is writing some articles on the subject, and you've been implying that the articles would back up your theory. The one you linked to doesn't, and there are no other articles to be seen. [quote:5524abd463="anthonycea"]If both of you want to start a propaganda war that is alright with me since that is what I am good at.[/quote:5524abd463] I haven't seen any evidence of that yet. I've seen a lot of what you have written, but I wouldn't say that any of it constituted being good at propaganda. [quote:5524abd463="anthonycea"]Both of you need to decide if this is the direction you wish to take it, if so I would say that both of your forums will become targets for me.[/quote:5524abd463] Mine has been a target of yours for long enough and, so far, I haven't noticed any adverse effects. But then you don't have the clout to have any effect. [quote:5524abd463="anthonycea"]You did censor the thread at your forum Phil so how you can come here and say that is not true is just unfounded[/quote:5524abd463] I already told you - I removed a post of yours that contained flames. If that's censorship, ok. I said that before. And with that, I'll end my involvement in this thread. As I said earlier, I'm not going to discuss things with you. Forum discussions take time, and I don't have the time to give you - other people, yes, but not you - sorry. I'll respond if you provide any quotes of my flames that I asked for, but that's all.
That is fine Phil, if you do not want to discuss issues then you are right, we are wasting time on the tit for tat shit. I tend to discuss issues on forums, if you do not wish to discuss issues lets just leave it be for now. Bottom line is we have both done what we have done. I wish you no harm. You have posted bad things on me, I have posted bad about you, let the readers figure out the rest. I really wish things would have worked out in a different way but they did not.